I ordered 3 different kinds of tactical packs to find what will work for my lifestyle needs best. This pack is truly excellent but my concealed carry is just a bit to big to fit comfortably in the pack, yes its meant to be a concealed carry tactical pack. Ive used it on a couple runs and it really does work very nicely, Ive included the Vertx website I ordered it from, theyre $100 without tax and shipping, Ill let it go for $80 in cash, cash only and dont embarrass yourself by lowballing an offer offering said cash. Pack is located in Fargo and meeting somewhere locally or at our business can very much be arranged, or we come to Bismarck weekly to work back home and same applies. I included the link for the pack to copy paste into your browser. Have a blessed day and thanks for your time.